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1. The Smart Money: Rob's take on "I Can See it From Here"
2. Monday Q&A: If yours didn't make it this week, don't worry. It will.
Remember: questions are answered in the order they arrive.

"Brand-based viruses"
~ Michael Kimsal
~ Rob's response
~ Paul Smith
~ Rob's response

"Gateway's Stupid Branding"
~ Lenann McGookey Gardner
~ Rob's response

"How Do I Generate Yellow Pages Revenue?"
~ Paul Smith
~ Rob's response

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1. THE SMART MONEY: "I Can See it From Here"
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I could be wrong, but let me try something out on you here. I firmly
believe that as the economy bumps up and down, certain industries feel the
effects in different order. Some feel the effects before others, depending
on what part they play in the food chain.

Generally speaking, I'd say that the minute things start to hint of going
south, it's the forefront services that get sacked first. The basic
necessities get hit last. And everyone else takes it somewhere in between.
In business, the forefront services include strategic planning, marketing,
advertising and public relations. My thinking is that when business starts
to contract, management figures that forward thinking services are least
important to bringing in the bucks to meet next quarter's numbers. So out
goes the ad agency, the branding guy, the public relations agency and the
marcomm department.

The survivors include anyone and anything that has to do with sales. If
business improves, management hangs tough for a quarter to make sure the
ship is righted. If the sailing is smooth, they may hire back. If not, the
next victims are anything and anyone that has to do with maintaining the
organization, starting from the outside and working its way in. Typically,
this means customer service people walk the plank, followed by their
supervisors and technicians.

You get the idea. This isn't rocket science: everyone has their place in
the food chain. The axes fall in fairly predictable order. What I find
interesting is that the axe doesn't reverse itself when business starts to
pick up. Certainly not in the exact reverse order in which it fell. In
fact, a brief survey I conducted pretty much surprised me when I found that
the first signs of a recovery are when the first people who get axed are
the first ones hired back.

That's right. Where you might have expected the last ones to go to be
hired back first, the exact opposite is true: the first ones who felt the
axe's edge are the first ones to get the call. There's only one way I can
figure that to work, which is that having been burned through a bad economy
and having cut their organizations to the bone, management must figure that
if they're going to re-think or re-structure, they'd better plan it out
before they implement. Hence, they start hiring their strategizers and
planners again.

Is it true? Well, speaking for myself, I've notice an uptick in business.
Could be coincidence, although month over month, it's a nice coincidence to
have happen. I'm hoping that being in a forefront service myself, that I'm
one of the first ones touched. I'm hoping that there's a recovery nearing.

I think I can see it from here.

Rob Frankel, Big Time Branding(TM) http://www.RobFrankel.com

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"Branding is not about getting your prospects to choose you over your
competition; it's about getting your prospects to see you as the only
solution to their problem." ™  ... Rob Frankel, consultant and author of
"The Revenge of Brand X: How to build a Big Time Brand™ on the Web or
Anywhere Else."

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2. MONDAY Q&A:
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BRAND BASED VIRUSES
The Comment from: Michael Kimsal

Rob said: "Since no harm would come to anyone's data, where's the crime?"

Rob:

Most laws on the books regarding anything computer-related define the crime
in terms of 'unauthorized use'. It's a broad term that can be made to fit
anything, really. For example, I might try to telnet into a school's
network. Even if I don't have a name/password, and am simply presented
with a 'welcome' screen, it's technically 'unauthorized' since I'm not a
student. However, since I'm not a student there, and haven't been able to
log in, I've not been able to read their acceptable usage policy. But it's
still unauthorized.

Will people come after me for that? Generally no. But the laws are
intentionally vague because lawmakers don't fully understand the
technology, and broader is better, as it can be adapted to whatever
"cybercrimes" may happen in the future.

Large companies most likely won't try to go after this because of the
negative publicity and potential liability a virus could cause. Knowing
exactly where it came from makes it all the more tempting to actually
pursuit the large companies for damages, because you know they'll have
deeper pockets. :)

Rob's Answer:

Okay, but what if this isn't a web virus? What if it's transmitted by
e-mail and is written to briefly take over your screen and then disappear
just as suddenly? What if, as I wrote last week, it actually does some
good to your computer? For instance, if Symantec creates a super hero
virus that attaches itself to your e-mail and discovers viruses on your
recipients' PC's, giving you the credit for alerting them to the virus?
Who really gets hurt there? In fact, isn't Symantec coming out of it
looking good?

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BRAND BASED VIRUSES
The Comment from: Paul Smith

Rob wrote:

>"As many of you already know, I'm a Macintosh guy. No, it's more than
that.
>I'm a Macintosh evangelist. I laugh at the forwarded e-mails I get,
>warning me about the latest PC viruses. If I'm in an especially
malevolent
>mood, I hit "Reply to all" and tell the recipients that if they'd bought a
>Mac, they'd be chuckling too, instead of wondering why everyone on their
>mailing list has had their hard drives erased."

This is kind of an example of "security through obscurity." That is, if
the target, in this case Mac users, does not have nearly as large a
customer base as Windows users, then hacking/viruses will not be as widely
experienced.

I happen be one of a group of ISPs that uses a firewall that not only has
NEVER been hacked, there is also good reason to believe it NEVER WILL be
hacked. However, as additional steps (as part of our security through
obscurity program) we do not discuss it's name outside our membership, will
not allow its user manual to be put in digital form, and we purchased a
license to further develop its software.

best, Paul

Rob's Answer:

Which are fine ideas, but my point was that the efficacy of a virus being
deployed as a branding tool. Per your comment, anyone using a brand-based
virus would aim it at the same market the hackers do: the Windows-based PC
users. The real question is whether the virus is inherently evil, or has
the virus simply been used for evil purposes? Does the preclude its uses
for good?

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GATEWAY'S STUPID BRAND
The Question from: Lenann McGookey Gardner

Rob,

Well said, once again. But I can't help but wonder: have you let the
people at Gateway know how you feel? And how you can be of help? Saying
they don't have a brand is one thing, saying they will never have a brand
is quite another. Here's the sales trainer in me again ... have you gotten
yourself in the door to talk turkey with these people?

As always, thanks for my "weekly dose"!

Lenann McGookey Gardner, President
Lenann McGookey Gardner Management Consulting, Inc.
505.828.1788
Please visit us on the web at http://www.YouCanSell.com

Rob's Answer:

Lenann, you'll be pleased to know that one result of this last year's
recession has been a serious overhaul of my own outbound sales processes.
Through careful analysis and a certain injection of intestinal fortitude, I
kicked into sales gear with what I think is a very effective sales program.
Response rates are up. Sales are highly profitable and growing. So
that's not the real problem here.

The reason why I don't go after Gateway myself has more to do with a brand
compatibility more than anything else. There's a very definite footprint
that any branding prospect lays down from which I can fairly well ascertain
our compatibility.

The very fact that Gateway would choose an ad agency to re-create its brand
is only the tip of the iceberg, but a telling one. It communicates to me
that this is a company whose management buys into too many myths for my
message to get through. Of course, that's only the first issue and the
latest one, at that. If you check gateway's history, you'll find that
their entire track record has been one whose compatibility with my own
practices is remote, at the very most. Other key indications are
executions that historically have centered around self-glorification, the
most notorious being the founder's appearances in his own TV spots, the
surest sign of too much in-breeding.

Those are just some of the clues that let me know Gateway is not a prime
candidate for my services. Interestingly, the clients that respond most
favorably are those with no brand at all. These are companies who not only
have a name and a logo, but something far more important: a CEO who
understands his company's inability to do their own branding.

Those are the companies whose management is far more compatible, and thus,
tend to close more quickly.

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GENERATING YELLOW PAGES REVENUE
The Question from: Paul Smith

Rob:

We are finally getting known, and getting traffic up, and now want to start
getting revenue from http://www.smarteryellowpages.com/index.cfm

What suggestions do you have on revenue-delivering services and products we
might offer?

best, paul

Rob's Answer:

Paul, being an old Golden Bear myself, any guy that has his picture taken
in a Cal hat is okay by me, so I'm going to give you the royal treatment
here. Which could mean being as brutal as helpful, but hey, it's all in
the Oskie tradition.

Nah, just kidding.

There are a couple of things you're going to have to consider before you
even approach the revenue issue, the foremost being "old baggage". What I
mean by that is the pre-existing notions of what the term "yellow pages"
conjures up in your users' minds. And let's not forget that you have TWO
users here: advertisers and genuine looker-uppers.

The looker-uppers notion of yellow pages is a free medium. They expect to
come to your site, search what they're seeking, find it, click on it and
say goodbye, all without spending a dime. Advertisers are expecting a
return on their advertising investment, hoping that what they spend to list
with your site will result in more business.

So where's the revenue opportunity? If you ask me (and you did) it's with
the looker-uppers, not the advertisers. At least not at first. Of course,
you're going to have a bear (no pun intended) of a problem when you finally
do decide to charge for listings, because all those freeloaders are going
to either bail or start whining. But that's another story.

For your looker-uppers, I think it comes in the form of Branded Community.
Especially in the Bay Area, where the sense of community is so strong, it
seems fitting that they would subscribe to a mailing list that allowed
users to notify each other of new things in the Bay Area that were targeted
to special interests and promoted member to member relationships. After
that, promoting inexpensive downloadable directories that include your
listing advertisers is a high-margin way to go, too, as is an "Ask Mr. Bay
Area" service, which can be automated and served out of your listings.

Some things to think about, too: Your URL is NOT Bay Area specific. I
wonder how much that hurts. Also, your site asks for a member sign in, but
I'm not really clear what the benefits to signing up are.

Anyway, that's the quick take on the site. Now, you tell me: when is Cal
finally going to win a Rose Bowl? ....Rob

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